Spilling the Truth - Wine & Conversation

A wine driven and libation fueled candid conversation among beverage industry leaders

Episode 41: Blind Tasting with Yousef from The Social Distance Drinking Club show

August 26th, 2020

In Episode 41, after a few months away from the mic's, the guys settle back into the groove of podcasting by welcoming their good friend Yousef back on the show to talk about his craft beer collaboration and to blind taste some wine with us.   

Yousef is the founder and cohost of the live show "Social Distance Drinking Club" and a Spilling the Truth favorite guest.  The guys talk all about his recent beer collaboration with Tombstone Brewing, announce their new studio and wine bar, and of course discuss Jonathan's addiction to Sbarros pizza.   This was a perfect episode to get the show restarted, thank you for listening.  


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Episode 40: The Cabernet Conversations Vol 3 - The Pandemic and the Impact on the Wine Business

April 20th, 2020

The guys are back with new episodes!  In their return, Jonathan and Damien open a great bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon and discuss the impact the pandemic is having on restaurants, wineries, breweries and the beverage industry as a whole.  They have some great advice for people trying to do virtual tastings and ideas on how to get through the weeks of being on lockdown.  

Wines Tasted:
2013 Calla Lilly "Ultimate Red" Cabernet Sauvignon - Pope Valley, Napa, California 

Episode 39: Special Guest Nicola Biscardo Shares Knowledge, Passion and His Amazing Italian Wines

November 5th, 2019

In today episode, Damien and Jonathan were very lucky to spend a couple hours talking everything Italian with Nicola Biscardo, Amarone producer, importer, and brand ambassador of some of the most amazing and unique Italian varietals.  

The guys begin the show with a quick lesson on Italian phrases and than get right into the rich culture and history of Italy and Verona in particular.  Nicola shares his passion and enthusiasm throughout the show and educates the guys on how amarone is produced, the greatest mistake his parents ever made, and why everyone in the US should drink more Italian wines.  The guys could have talked all day and we cannot wait to record part two.  This episode is a ton of fun and very educational.  Thank you all for listening and we hope you enjoy as much as they guys did recording it. 

Some of the varietals tasted during this episode are so unique they might be difficult to find but definitely worth the search to find them.   

For more information, for distribution, or to contact Nicola 

Wines Tasted: 
NV Notte Bianci Emilia Brut IGP - Emilia-Romagna, Italy
2017 Gaierhof Pinot Grigio DOCG - Trentino, Italy
2017 Tenuta la Meridiana "Le Quattro Terre" Barbera D'Asti DOCG - Montegrosso d’Asti, Italy
2017 Marchesi Biscardo Corvina della Provincia di Verona IGT - Negrar, Italy
2015 Marchesi Biscardo Amarone della Valpolicella DOCG - Negrar, Italy
2018 Salvatore Martusciello "OTTOUVE" Gragnano della Penisola Sorrentina DOC - Campania, Italy

Episode 38 : Sabering Champagne and Oregon Pinot Noir with the Owner of Atlas Bistro, Todd Sawyer

October 28th, 2019

In Episode 38, Damien and Jonathan welcome the owner of Atlas Bistro on the show to saber a champagne bottle and to talk Oregon Pinot Noir. Todd founded Atlas Bistro 19 years ago and it has become one of the best hidden gems in Phoenix and in America.

The show starts off with a quick demonstration on how not to saber a bottle, a discussion about Grower Champagnes, our favorite wine importers, and how he founded the restaurant. Quickly the guys get into how Atlas Bistro, after 19 years, stays one step ahead of restaurant trends through global travels and how great it was being featured on The Food Network this year. While enjoying two great Pinots and talking all about the different growing regions in Oregon they get into reminiscing about the best bottles ever shared at Atlas and what wines got everyone into wine.

It was a lot of fun to record this episode and if you haven't yet been to Atlas or haven't gone in a while, it is a perfect time to make a reservation.

This episode is available on YouTube (and we recommend watching Todd's epic saber fail. 

Wines Tasted:
Champagne Marc Hebreart Premier Cru Blanc de Blancs
2017 Walter Scott "Justice Vineyard" Pinot Noir - Willamette Valley, OR
2012 Soter Vineyards North Valley Pinot Noir - Yahmill-Carlton, Dundee OR

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Episode 37: Gorman Winery, Saltfire Brewing and Sneaking into Trade Shows

October 22nd, 2019

In Episode 37, Jonathan and Damien talk all about attending wine trade shows and discuss Washington state wines for the first time. The guys just returned from a local distributor trade event with a bottle of Saltfire Hazy IPA and 4 different selections from Gorman Winery in Columbia Valley WA. They spend the episode discussing everything from sustainability laws and Washington growing regions to how to get into a distributor trade shows with ease.

Gorman winery is a great value and we definitely recommend the wines to anyone wanting to try some big wines from the Pacific NW. We hope you enjoy and thank you for listening.

Products Tasted:
Saltfire Brewing Co "Big in Japan" Hazy IPA - Salt Lake City, UT
2016 Gorman Winery "The Devil You Know" - Columbia Valley, WA
2016 Gorman Winery "The Devil You Don't Know" - Columbia Valley, WA
2016 Gorman Winery "Old Scratch" Cabernet Sauvignon - Red Mountain, WA
2015 Gorman Winery "The Bully" Cabernet Sauvignon - Red Mountain, WA

Episode 36: The Wine & Pizza Conversations paired with David Tyda

October 3rd, 2019

In Episode 36, the guys welcomed local food festival legend David Tyda on the show to Spill the Truth all about his new festivals and to discuss pairing wine with pizza. David arrived to the show with a local favorite NY style pizza, the guys opened three awesome Italian wines, turned on the mic's instantly hilarity ensued.

This episode is our funniest to date and also has the first canned wine consumed on the show.  The guys talk all about Davids upcoming Phoenix Pizza Festival and debate everything from whether Chicago pizza is actually a casserole to whether tots considered french fries. The trio also discusses about 20 other hilarious topics and we don't want to spoil all the fun so you will just need to listen.  

This episode is full of great information and really is our most entertaining episode so far. Thank you again David for coming on the show and we hope you all enjoy listening as much as we did recording.

You can also watch this episode on YouTube here

Wines Tasted:
Frico by Scarpetta Lambrusco (250ml Can)
2017 Tenuta delle Terre Nere Etna Rosso
2013 Villa di Geggiano Chianti Classico

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Episode 35: The Howell Mountain Conversations with Sommelier Thomas Klafke

September 25th, 2019

In this episode,  Damien and Jonathan welcome their good friend and sommelier Thomas Klafke to Spill the Truth about the Howell Mountain AVA.  This is the the most informative episode to date and might have the best wine ever consumed by the guys while recording.  Thomas flew in just to share three estate Cabernet Sauvignons from three different vintages while discussing the nuances of the region in a fun way.  The conversation really is an in depth look into the Howell Mountain AVA and the mind of a sommelier,  yet it also covers everything from how we got in the business to what we would drink if we were trapped on a desert island.  We really hope you enjoy this look into the mind of a somm and thank you again Thomas for sharing some of the best wines ever made in California. 

Wines Tasted:
2013 Bravante Vineyards Estate Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon - Howell Mountain, CA
2014 Neil Family Vineyards Estate Cabernet Sauvignon - Howell Mountain, CA
2015 Cimarossa "Riva de Levante" Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon - Howell Mountain, CA


Episode 34: Sulfites & Other Wine Misconceptions with Sean Tevik

September 18th, 2019

In this episode,  Damien and Jonathan welcome back Sean Tevik to discuss sulfites in wine more in depth and talk about other misconceptions in wine production. Sean has worked as a wine director, winery general manager, distributor, and ambassador and is a wealth of knowledge. We had planned on talking more about sulfites during this episode however the conversation lead us to many alternate topics such as spontaneous fermentation, immaculate inoculations and magic wands that reduce hangovers. This episode was quite a lot of fun to record and had some hilarious moments

Thank you again Sean for coming on Spilling the Truth and sharing some special wines with us and remember "Be good...and if you cannot be good, be bad".

Wines Tasted:
NV Valdo "Cuvee 1926" Prosecco DOCG - Valdobbiadene, Italy
2018 La Perriere Sancerre - Loire Valley, France
2011 No Ancora Pinot Noir - Russian River Valley, CA
2011 Davis Family Winery "Soul Patch" Syrah - Russian River Valley, CA

Episode 33: Sulfites in Wine, They Don’t Cause Headaches or Hangovers

August 30th, 2019

In this episode, Jonathan and Damien discuss sulfites and additives in wines. The sulfites added to wine have became the stuff of urban legend where people believe its the catalyst for every headache, migraine, and movie style hangover. And yet, there’s no scientific evidence to support such claims. Damien has some great rants as the duo discuss all the additives allowed in wine, the real reason you might get a headache, and some local Arizona wines that you might find interesting.  Thank you for watching.  

Wines Tasted:
2016 Giovanni Rosso Langhe Nebbiolo - Piedmont, Italy 
2012 Caduceus Cellars "Sancha" - Cochise County, Arizona

Wine blog on episode 33: Sulfites in wine

Watch on YouTube here

Full list of over 60 additives allowed in wine
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Episode 32: Wine Conversations with Sommelier Oscar Avila

August 29th, 2019

In this episode, Jonathan and Damien sit down with Sommelier Oscar Avila before he leaves for Burgundy to pursue his MBA in wine. The guys talk what it takes to get a Business Degree in wine while enjoying some of Oscar's favorite varietals. The trio discusses everything from food and wine pairings and global warming to the wine events to attend such as TexSomm, VinItaly, and ProWein. Oscar drops some great knowledge including when is the perfect time to open those special bottles you are holding. This episode is a casual look into the mind of a sommelier and we hope you enjoy.

Good luck in Burgundy Oscar

Wines Tasted:
2016 Benoit Ente Vin de Bourgogne - Puligney Montrachet
2017 G.D. Vajra Langhe Riesling DOC - Piedmont, Italy 2009
Cagliero 'Ravera' Barolo DOCG - Piedmont, Italy

You can watch this episode on YouTube here as well

Episode 31: Hazy IPAs of San Diego and Craft Beer Statistics

August 19th, 2019

In this episode, Jonathan and Damien go back to beer and do a followup to their Hazy IPA episode.  They guys open a few different craft beers fresh from San Diego and discuss the craft beer explosion in the US and many of the trends happening right now.  Damien busts out some amazing stats such as total number of breweries since the 1800's and per capita volume brewed per state.  Many of the things covered in this episode are going to shock you !  Enjoy and thank you for listening. 

Beers Consumed:
Resident Brewing - Chasing Mosaic - Single Hazy IPA
Belching Beaver - Digital Bath - Single Hazy IPA
Belching Beaver - Here Comes Mango - West Coast IPA 
Coronado Brewing - 23rd Anniversary - Double Hazy IPA

You can watch this episode on YouTube right here
Episode 31 on YouTube

Episode 30: The Cabernet Conversations Vol 2

August 12th, 2019

In todays episode, Jonathan and Damien open a great bottle of 2007 Napa Cabernet Sauvignon and have a conversation about the state of the beverage industry. They talk about the new tasting tongue that can spot fakes, trigger words that freak people out, and what exactly the guys consider a "big" wine. We hope you enjoy and thank you for tuning in. 

Wine tasted:
2007 Barbour Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon - St. Helena, California

You can now also watch on YouTube
Episode 30 on YouTube

Episode 29: Alternative White Wines Perfect for Summer

August 1st, 2019

In this Episode, Jonathan and Damien open some of their favorite unique white wines that are perfect for summertime entertaining and all these wines pair perfectly with barbecues, tacos and pools.  The discuss throwing "A.B.C." parties as well as some of their favorite white wine pairings.  There are some hilariously funny moments in this episode and we hope you enjoy.  

Wines Tasted: 
2017 Aveleda Vinho Verde - Vinho Verde, Portugal 
2017 Piattelli Torrontes - Salta, Argentina 
2016 Hirsch "Hirschvergnügen" Grüner Veltliner - Kamptal, Austria 

Episode 28: All About Barolo

July 29th, 2019

In this episode, Jonathan and Damien talk all about Barolo.  They guys open two wines from the most iconic Barolo producers while discussing the region of Piedmont, the different clones of Nebbiolo and why this is one of their favorite varietals and regions in the world.  This is another milestone episode where you can also watch on YouTube.   We hope you enjoy.  

Wines tasted:
2013 Bruno Giacosa Nebbiolo d'alba - Nieve, Piedmont, Italy
2010 Damilano Cannubi Barolo - La Morra, Piedmont, Italy 

Watch Episode 28 here on YouTube


Episode 27: Clarifying the Hazy IPA craze

July 15th, 2019

In today's episode, Jonathan and Damien go down the Hazy IPA rabbit hole and discuss why so many wine lovers are enjoying this newer style of IPA.  The guys talk all about the different types of hops, the beer collaboration movement, and proper glassware.  As usual, the conversation takes many twists and turns and always ends up back to whats in the glass.   Cheers!   

Beers Tasted:
Odd 13 Brewing "Intergalactic Juice Hunter" Double IPA  
Lumberyard Brewing "Hazy Angel" IPA 
New Image Brewing - "Peachra - Attack of the Peach" Milkshake IPA
New Image Brewing - "Pay it Forward"  IPA 
Cerebral Brewing - "Rare Trait" IPA

Episode 26: When good wines go bad

July 3rd, 2019

In today's episode, Jonathan and Damien blind taste each other on some poorly stored wines and discuss the effects the storage environment has on wine.  During the show, the guys talk about different techniques used to romance wine buyers, the beer hops craze in the US, and wine diamonds.  The grand unveiling of wines tasted was shocking and you will need to tune in to see what happened.  Enjoy

Wines tasted:
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Episode 25: Blind tasting Malbecs and talking beer with our friend Yousef Hawash

June 3rd, 2019

In today's episode, Jonathan and Damien welcome local beer geek Yousef Hawash on the show drink wine and give his views as a consumer on the wine industry.  The original plan was to blind taste various Malbecs from around the world with him however the guys got quickly derailed and ended up talking about everything from the best airport food in America and Alex Jones to who really is the Robert Parker of milkshakes.  Yousef was a great guest and even shared a beer that would make the best sommeliers in america stop and think twice.  This probably is the funniest and most informative episode to date and we hope you enjoy listening as much as the guys had recording it.  

Wines Tasted: 
2015 Château de Mercuès - Malbec du Cahors - Cahors, Fr
2015 Bodegas Norton D.O.C. Malbec - Lujan de Cuyo, Mendoza, Ar
2014 Browne Family Vineyards Malbec - Columbia Valley, Washington

Beer Tasted:
2015 Stone Farking Wheaton W00tstout 

Episode 24: Why everyone should drink more Rosé

May 8th, 2019

In today's episode, Damien and Jonathan dive deep into Rosé wines and discuss why everyone should drink more of them.  The guys open wines from two different countries and talk about everything from how Rosé is made and common food pairings to the final 2018 stats on wine consumption in the USA.  We suspect the guys will do many more Rosé episodes after this one since they only scratched the surface on the many different styles of Rosé made around the world.  Enjoy ! 

Wines Tasted:
2018 Ioppa Nebbiolo Rosé DOC - Colline Novaresi, Italy
2017 Espirit Gassier  Côtes de Provence - Provence, France 

Episode 23: Produttori Barbaresco and Wine Stats

April 22nd, 2019

In today's Episode, Jonathan and Damien open a 1.5ltr bottle of 2011 Produttori del Barbaresco for the Easter Holiday to share with friends.  The guys return from a week away to discuss the nostalgia of opening large format bottles, debate proper glassware to use for nebbiolo and talk about some great Wine Searcher stats that Damien pulled off the interweb.  This episode is packed full of general knowledge about the wine industry as a whole and the region of Barbaresco.   We hope you enjoy.  

Wines Tasted :
2011 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco 1.5ltr - Piedmont, Italy   

Episode 22: Cabernet Franc and Conversation

April 10th, 2019

In this episode Jonathan and Damien focus in on the varietal Cabernet Franc.  The duo open two very different styles of Cab Franc and discuss everything from 80's cartoons to Instagram influencers marketing wine now.  This is a total rabbit hole of an episode in which you will discover both Damien's worst fashion mistakes to Jonathan's amazing singing voice.  We really hope you enjoy, and remember "Knowing is half the battle" 

Wines Tasted: 
2017 Malibu Rocky Oaks Cabernet Franc - Malibu Coast, California 
2004 Viader "DARE" Cabernet Franc - Napa Valley, California 

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